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OKC voters exclusively share opinions on MAPS 3 options

Tuesday, September 22, 2009
By Scott Cooper

MAPS-3-Mayor-Mick-Cornett-a.jpgWhen unveiling the projects that would comprise a new MAPS (Metropolitan Area Projects) proposal late last week, Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett said getting this initiative passed would be a fight. According to an exclusive Oklahoma Gazette/News 9 poll of OKC voters, he may face just that.

A WORTHY CAUSE
SURVEY SAYS
FORGING SUPPORT

The public opinion poll, conducted by Shapard Research just prior to Cornett’s announcement, found a slight majority favors extending the 1-cent sales tax which has been used to fund several city projects; almost everyone surveyed knew little to nothing about the proposal; three of the proposed projects have marginal support; and support is waning with each successive extension.

This may not the best news for the mayor and supporters of MAPS 3, but the window to sway the public is wide open before the Dec. 8 election.

“Sixty days is plenty of time to run a campaign for something like this,” said Keith Gaddie, Shapard’s vice president of research.

It will require a heavy education campaign. More than 80 percent polled said they do not have sufficient project information to make a final decision of support or opposition for MAPS 3. The Greater Oklahoma City Chamber of Commerce has conducted two polls, but refuses to release the findings.

“I haven’t heard much except what has been in the news, but I haven’t heard it discussed with my friends,” said city voter Norma Harris.

A WORTHY CAUSE

The mayor and city leaders behind the proposal have reiterated overwhelming community support to extend the special sales tax for more projects. But the Gazette/News 9 poll finds a different take. Of the nearly 1,000 OKC residents surveyed, 52 percent agreed extending the tax is a good idea, 37 percent wanted to let the tax expire, and 11 percent were unsure.

While the gap between extend and expire is 14 points, having only a slight edge of more than half agreeing is a nervous starting point.

Solid support remains for valuing the original MAPS, which paid for various projects like the Bricktown Ballpark and the Ronald J. Norick Downtown Library, and MAPS for Kids, which built new schools and classrooms. But the last 1-cent sales tax project, which funded $120 million for improvements to the Ford Center and a new practice facility to bring in an NBA basketball team, takes a huge dip in support. While more than 75 percent thought the first and second MAPS were worth the money, only 57 percent said the same for the third.

“On the Ford Center, everybody is going to get to use that, so that’s a good thing,” said city voter J.T. Dills. “But the practice facility, they didn’t sell it enough as a community thing or make any indication it was going to get used by anybody else but the team.”

That may indicate waning support.

“There might be a fatigue factor,” Gaddie said. “Each time (city officials) have gone to the well, the value of the results has gotten weaker.”

Depending on which previous sales-tax election poll respondents voted in may also indicate the level of support. Those who have only voted in the NBA election had greater support for MAPS 3 than those who had voted in the previous two sales-tax extensions. 

SURVEY SAYS

The final proposal planned to be put forth to voters contains eight projects totaling $777 million, including $17 million in contingency funds. The tax would last seven years, beginning after the Ford Center tax expires in March.

The projects receiving the most support deal with city beautification and services, such as parks, trails and streets. MAPS 3 designates $10 million for more sidewalk construction and $40 million for 57 miles of bike and walking trails. Nearly 54 percent in the poll supported a sales tax extension for such projects. Oudoor projects were the only ones receiving more than 50 percent support.

The MAPS 3 plan to build up to six miles of rail for a streetcar in the downtown area earned 50 percent support in the poll. But with nearly 34 percent opposing such a project and 17 percent unsure, streetcar proponents will have to pound the pavement to secure passage.

Outdoor projects and a new streetcar were the only MAPS 3 projects receiving majority support in the poll.

“Those things are considered a public good. It’s for everybody to use and enjoy,” said Gaddie.

Aside from a proposal to spend $50 million on senior aquatic centers, city leaders will have to do some serious selling to get voter approval for the rest of the MAPS 3 projects.

A plan for a downtown central park gained 36 percent support, while 45 percent opposed. With a price tag of $130 million, the 70-acre park is one of the highlighted projects, but its lack of support may come from its location.

“A lot of the city isn’t touched by this. That’s why the support is more broad-based for general outdoor improvements,” Gaddie said. “If they are going to pay taxes, they want it to go to services that will come out to them.”

One poll question asked potential voters to pick the most attractive of four options, which included further Oklahoma River development, a Bricktown canal extension to the Myriad Gardens, added State Fairgrounds pavilion space or none of the above. Here are the results:

  • Improvements to the Oklahoma River, which would cost $60 million, received 26 percent.
  • 25 percent picked the canal extension.
  • 11 percent selected fairgrounds upgrades, estimated at $60 million.
  • 39 percent preferred no options.

But the one MAPS 3 item which could be the Achilles’ heel for the initiative is the most costly: a new convention center priced at $280 million. The main push of the Greater Oklahoma City Chamber of Commerce, and the centerpiece of the mayor’s roundtable forum back in May, was only supported by 27 percent in the Gazette/News 9 poll. Opposition to the convention center hovered above 57 percent.

“That convention center project by itself is unpopular,” Gaddie said. “It’s the one that engenders the greatest opposition across all ideological groups.”

Regardless of age, gender, political party, race or income, the majority of all demographic groups voiced a resounding “no” on the convention center.

“I don’t think it needs to be redone, especially at this time,” said city voter Beverly Adkins, who is concerned about such an initiative during the current economic condition. 

FORGING SUPPORT

For Mayor Cornett and his MAPS 3 organizers, the search is on for the pockets of support and pitfalls of opposition. The first place they might want to start is in Councilman Larry McAtee’s Ward 3 district. The Southwest Oklahoma City ward has the highest and most consistent levels of resistance to the proposal.

On the basic question of extending the sales tax or not, only 31 percent in Ward 3 said yes, 15 points below the next district of support. The ward also rejected every one of the proposed MAPS 3 projects, especially the convention center, which only 8 percent approved.

Contrasting the views of Ward 3, the councilman swore his support in a written statement to the mayor.

“For the good of my children and grandchildren, now is the time to keep moving forward. I wholeheartedly support the MAPS 3 initiative,” McAfee said.

MAPS 3 proponents will also have to work on the poor and middle classes of the city, which provide less support than higher-income patrons. The high mark comes from those making more than $100,000 a year, with 68 percent approval, while 53 percent of $50,000 and lower annual incomes show support. Of those earning less than $25,000, the level of support dropped to 40 percent.

“The poor and middle class are always more hurt by an increase in the sales tax and they always want to cut it,” Gaddie said. “The affluent are less affected by it and, therefore, are more supportive. Whether it’s 6 or 7 percent (sales tax) isn’t that big a difference.”

One other demographic to consider if the election is close is African-Americans, of which 54 percent support extending the tax.

“The African-American vote when properly mobilized can be turned out in high numbers and can be turned out as a block vote,” Gaddie said. “In Oklahoma City, we have seen instances where high African-American turnout in low-turnout elections has led to surprises. Ask Kirk Humphreys.”

Back in February, former mayor Humphreys was upset in his bid to be Oklahoma City school board chairman by Angela Monson, based largely on a significant African-American turnout in just a few precincts.

The city plans to lump all of the projects into one proposal for voters to consider. Gaddie called this strategy logrolling.

“The idea is if you roll everything up, the attractive elements will be so powerful that people will accept the things they don’t like to get the things they really want. This is like bundling your cable packages. Who really wants a shopping network? But you take it because you want HBO.” —Scott Cooper

Copyright 2009 Gazette Media, Inc. and KWTV.  All rights reserved.  This public opinion poll has been conducted by and is the property of News9 and the Oklahoma Gazette.  The republication of any of its contents and results must be accompanied by an acknowledgement of Oklahoma Gazette and News9 as its source and that it is copyrighted.

MORE: The comprehensive poll.
Will OKC's decreased revenue change MAPS 3's final blueprint?
Former Mayor Ron Norick discusses how current MAPS proposal differs from first
Mayor prioritizes modern streetcar in OKC for MAPS 3
Some OKC entities stand to benefit in MAPS 3 proposal
MAPS 3 could bring massive central park to Downtown OKC area

19 Comment(s):

Mixed here too

I'd far rather see a good portion of the money spent to improve the parking situation Downtown and especially around Bricktown. I, and many others I know, rarely frequent either area due to the lack of free or low-cost parking that seems to abound in many of the other major cities I've frequented. If I recall we're also trying to improve tourism, a little towards repairing and the streets around town and keeping them repaired wouldn't hurt either.
9/22/2009 7:35 PM | marshallf3

Fubu Jeans

We need a sister city in Chile'. Chile' rhymes with McVeigh! McVeigh with Pinochet! And Cornett...well...he's just one funny guy! Radical Neo-Liberalism is fun fun fun!!! Ackerman McQueen? Charlie Hustle? You bet!
9/22/2009 8:33 PM | stevehunt

Drive the Core to Shore area, be an educated voter

I must say I was shocked to see how few people support the concept of a Central Park downtown. If you think of cities like London, New York, Boston and Chicago, four of the greater cities in the world, somewhere in your list of favorite attractions will be a park. Is a trip to London complete without a trip to Kensington or Hyde Park? In New York, Central Park is one of the most iconic aspects of the city. Does anyone not know about the swan boats in Boston's Public Garden or not grown up with "Make Way for Ducklings"? In Chicago, Millenium Park was where supporters of President Obama chose to gather to hear his victory speech on the eve of the election. The mall in Washington D.C. is another iconic location. With the exception of Lake Hefner, there's really not a destination park in Oklahoma City, which might explain why voters seem to think that if it's not in their backyard, they're not interested. But, I would encourage anyone who is considering voting for or against MAPS 3 to understand what we have south of downtown, and how it could be transformed. We have the opportunity to create a park for our city, for our citizens, that could be a destination, that could be one of the first things visitors want to see or think of when they think of Oklahoma City. Please, if you have never done so, go downtown and drive west past the Ford Center on Reno. When you get to Walker, turn south and drive to the Oklahoma River, the area envisioned as urban renewal by Core to Shore plans. Look at what is there now, and envision that entire space a park, stretching almost from downtown all the way to the river. Think about downtown festivals, think about a park linking our now incredibly usable Oklahoma River to the city. Think about Union Station as a destination as well, a Tavern on the Green type of building. It's almost mind-boggling to imagine, and it's the one thing in MAPS 3 that makes me again amazed at the vision of city leaders. To me, the park is the heart and center of MAPS 3, and it alone would be enough to garner my support. I don't think it's fair to oneself or our city to vote for or against this proposal, without knowing what you're voting for or against.
9/23/2009 7:28 AM | Jill

Fairgrounds?

Why on EARTH do we need more horse barns? The Fairgrounds are another Gaylord playpretty that no one wants to spend $60 million on.
9/24/2009 8:25 AM | stinkerpants

What a Joke

The Chamber of Commerce, who cries about health care for everyone, is now asking the same people for money to subsidize their project to benefit themselves and their constituent businesses. So much for free trade and free market. But no suprize since they support illegal immigrant to work dirt cheap over American labor. What a Joke.
9/23/2009 3:43 PM | jonbonjovy

we don't

need a central park. a limited amount of people would use it. most folks avoid bricktown because of the parking situation. i'd say let folks that live within walking distance of the proposed area, let them pay for it..... we don't need yet another convention center. we have the ford center & the myriad.....
9/23/2009 4:18 PM | KDBP1213

Vincent Orange 3 yards up the middle!

Folks if you were unable to read all that from Jill, here is a summary: The mall is a fine place, and worth fighting for!
9/24/2009 12:17 AM | stevehunt

bait and switch

I think some of the projects look ok but the convention center is what the chamber really wants, the others are window dressing and shiny objects to deflect attention from the proverbial turd in the punch bowl. $300 per person for the convention center - Bad Deal.
9/24/2009 12:30 AM | DavidOK

bait and switch

I think some of the projects look ok but the convention center is what the chamber really wants, the others are window dressing and shiny objects to deflect attention from the proverbial turd in the punch bowl. $300 per person for the convention center - Bad Deal.
9/24/2009 12:40 AM | DavidOK

really?

This benefits everyone whether they ever step foot in or on any of these proposed sites. Quality of life will be improved dramatically which will draw youth, jobs, and money into our community. Though private, Dallas spent near 1 billion dollars on their new stadium. I think we can justify spending $777 million on our city.
9/24/2009 9:24 AM | corbin

VOTE NO!...

I am 100% for a BIG LEAGUE CITY. Big league citys require support 1st. Lets find out whats really going on with our city government. I listened as ALL 3 of our representatives for city employees said they are already stretched to the limits. They BEGGED for a few more employees to support our growing city. Our city counsel turned their noses up at them. If we need Police, Fire, and more City Employees to support our growing city. Add another penny tax and lets get it done and BUILD. I was disgusted by how our city counsel would not even attempt to address their concerns. WOW!!!! Selfish!!! all for a freaking PARK??? I'll vote NO on this one. This one is not NEEDED like our MAPS 1 and 2 for schools and original downtown clean up and developement. SHAME on them. Thank you for the one city counselman who voted no on this one. TODAY!!! I saw a 1999 police car still on the road (yup a 10 yr old car) and was told about unmanned firestations?? That's a big league city??? I guess so is Washington DC. but NO Thanks. I've learned alot since researching the current state of our government. Not what CORNETT and COUCH says it is. We are being made to look like fools. I'm voting NO. Add a penny for support and then fancy Park and i'll vote YES....
9/30/2009 7:45 AM | maverick

VOTE YES SOUTHSIDERS!!

I grew up in S. OKC. Raised a family, lived in the same house for 25yrs. Then I left.I got tired of the attitude of the people around there. In the meantime, the southside of OKC is"run down" MAPS3 can help change that. But knowing the folks like I do, they will have to count on the rest of us to show them whats good for the whole city.
9/30/2009 5:16 PM | Rick P

Who will this realy help?

Rick P. expresses optimism that Maps 3 can help change the blight of the southside. I wonder how. There is not one red cent of this $777 Million proposal earmarked for anything south of the river. Nor, for that matter, will any money be spent east of I-235, north of the memorial or west of the Municipal building. And that's the problem with Maps 3. The tax gives more and more money to build venues that most of the citizens of this city will not use and that many cannot even afford to use. Meanwhile, people living ouside the downtown development area will continue to live without adequate police and fire service and will continue to drive on increasingly delapidated roads. I'll believe that the city cares about the southside when it paves SW 8th street between Barnes and Agnew.
10/9/2009 2:47 PM | jrspruill

MAPS "REALLY" helps us all!!

MAPS3 will create a better city. It will create more jobs as well. Not every project is for the locals only. And thats the idea behind the MAPS projects.We have got to become a city that out of town folks want to visit. In return, they spend money which helps us all. MAPS has been good for the city as a whole. Ask the folks at Devon about what they think about the MAPS projects. And yes southside got its share of money for some really nice schools.
10/9/2009 7:43 PM | Rick P

NO!! MAPS3

who cares about the folks at DEVON!!! a better city? Better city for who??? how much money did the 1st maps give the city? and where is it?? i don't care about what out of town folks want at this point. I care about what the state of the parks we already have are in. i care about what the citizens on the s side and ne side of oklahoma city need for their respective areas. i'll take a ride and take some pictures of some of our GREAT parks and roads....etc..Fix what we have...give our city services the people they need to take care of this city...then MAPS3....Maps helps us all...really rick run over the east side and ask them how they've benifited...VOTE NO...we can do better than this current proposal...ALOT better
10/11/2009 2:34 PM | maverick

DEVON

if that's the case then let DEVON build it!!!!
10/11/2009 2:36 PM | maverick

Devon is Proof of MAPS projects!

How many times does Mr. Nichols need to go on TV and say thanks for MAPS! Devon is building the largest building in the state. They are spending millions to redo the myriad gardens. Its because of MAPS. Thousands of people will have a job just building the place. i dont know if the rest of the pennies in the sales tax have done thier job. But Devon is just 1 example, as to why MAPS3 should go forward.
10/13/2009 9:24 AM | Rick P

MAPS 3 may endanger State Fair Speedway

Given the current composition of the Fair Board, MAPS 3 may endanger historic State Fair Speedway (SFS). 1. SFS is a historic and valuable amenity that would cost $60 to $100 milion to replace. 2. One of the problems with MAPS 3 is the “coyness” of Fair Board officials about SFS. It’s not shown on the artwork promoting the fair park revisions. Thus, the “master plan” for Fair Park is unreasonably vague. SFS may be gravely endangered by MAPS 3 and the officials in charge apparently lack the candor to be truthful about it. 3. It is unrealistic to presume that any private entity can or would build a motorsports facility as good or better than SFS. Any replacement would likely be an inconveniently-located, cheaply-built “erector-set” facility. 4. Considering that SFS is “paid for,” it’s wholly unreasonable to penalize Central Oklahoma’s racing fans and racers with the cost of a new facility (the money would have to come from somewhere, and the costs of a new facility would be passed along).
10/20/2009 2:36 PM | Speedzzter

When will the two Fire Stations be built?

In 2000 a bond issue was passed for two new stations, they have not been built. It didn't take long for the City to remodel the Ford Center for the Mayors rich friends. What about his ties to all these people through his new employer, talk about a conflict of interest. Maybe the Gazette can write an article about that.
10/21/2009 9:31 PM | DODGEMAN

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